Same-sex Homecoming Court - Page 3

Diocletian · 11-07-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun

But, I also want to make sure it's understand that I hate the term race and the very idea that we even think in race, and that it's born into us as part of our culture, is sick and disgusting and makes me very sad to be human...

It makes you sad to acknowledge genetic differences?

Don't read a biology textbook then; those things are scaaaary.

Jack · 11-07-2009, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun

But, I also want to make sure it's understand that I hate the term race and the very idea that we even think in race, and that it's born into us as part of our culture, is sick and disgusting and makes me very sad to be human...

Race is genetic variations between humans. It's the way humans use different races to our own selfish ends and the way humans see certain races as better than others that sickens me.

miss_smiley · 11-08-2009, 04:28 AM

I'm with Drax on that one. There's no fault in our differences - it's part of what makes the world so interesting and beautiful. The marring of it is when some jerk-off decides that they're better than the others or that they can use particular aspects of their differences to push others into getting what they want.
Back to the subject - I really think the whole king/queen thing is completely out-dated anyways. It's just as stupid as racism or homophobia. It's elitist and vain and I'm glad that we don't have it in Australia.
That's my humble opinion.

Shaun · 11-08-2009, 02:06 PM

The genetic basis of race is weak at best. While there are obviously genes that change skin tone and other things, the basis of those genes is unknown. Race would only hold up if it was discovered that people of other skin tones, etc. were a subgroup of homo sapiens. Otherwise, we'd find out that environment created our differences and we would have no leg to stand on in the race debate, since race would not exist.

Not to mention that genetics can now tell you where your ancestors came from. It might be surprising to note that not all black people are descended from people of Africa and the same is true of people of other "races." Our origins are mixed.

Jack · 11-08-2009, 06:25 PM

Did anyone see Race and Intelligence: Science's Last Taboo?

Shaun · 11-08-2009, 09:39 PM

No, I did not. But that's not really what we're supposed to be discussing here, so maybe we should get back on topic.

Damn those gays for wanting homecoming King and Queen for their own!

Jack · 11-09-2009, 07:00 AM

Ah, yes indeed. Well it kind of feels as though this debate has reached a conclusion, doesn't it?

GeorgeMichael · 11-09-2009, 03:51 PM

I need some quick clarification Adri, or anyone else who knows the situation. Were people running as couples before? Like do you vote for a couple as King and Queen? At my homecoming it was an individual vote and usually you would get one random popular guy with a different girl, and it would hardly be one of the real couples, so I'm not sure on that level. If your school votes on couples then yes gay people should be allowed to run for king and queen as a couple, however, if it is an individual vote I think that guys can only run for king and girls can run for queen. I mean I didn't think it would bother me, it's just that they have their dance and everything and if some random guy and a gay guy one you can't really blame anyone for feeling uncomfortable with that.

Rouge · 11-09-2009, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by GeorgeMichael

I need some quick clarification Adri, or anyone else who knows the situation. Were people running as couples before? Like do you vote for a couple as King and Queen? At my homecoming it was an individual vote and usually you would get one random popular guy with a different girl, and it would hardly be one of the real couples, so I'm not sure on that level. If your school votes on couples then yes gay people should be allowed to run for king and queen as a couple, however, if it is an individual vote I think that guys can only run for king and girls can run for queen. I mean I didn't think it would bother me, it's just that they have their dance and everything and if some random guy and a gay guy one you can't really blame anyone for feeling uncomfortable with that.

What happened was this: The Greek people would vote on a couple, the housing people would vote on a couple, athletics would vote on a couple and then the student body would vote on what couple they thought was best. The LGBT thinks that it should be a king/king or a queen/queen period.

GeorgeMichael · 11-09-2009, 05:08 PM

OK there definitely shouldn't be only king/king or queen/queen, but if the entire thing is a couples thing then I think that they should be allowed to run. It's not conventional to many people but that's not really the point. If it was all individual voting I would understand not letting guys run for queen or girls run for king, but if it's a couple race then they really shouldn't be discriminated against in that way. If people want to call them Queen/Queen or King/King then fine but since this is a couple's race then they really shouldn't be left out, it would be wrong.

11-08-2009, 04:28 AM	View Post #23 (Link)
miss_smiley Freelance Writer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Everyone knows where I live. That's the scary thing. Posts: 1,170 Points: 30 Times Thanked: 31	I'm with Drax on that one. There's no fault in our differences - it's part of what makes the world so interesting and beautiful. The marring of it is when some jerk-off decides that they're better than the others or that they can use particular aspects of their differences to push others into getting what they want. Back to the subject - I really think the whole king/queen thing is completely out-dated anyways. It's just as stupid as racism or homophobia. It's elitist and vain and I'm glad that we don't have it in Australia. That's my humble opinion. __________________ Read my blog-story, "A Fight of Fiction"! Take me to your newest update, Smiley!

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Shaun Dead Person Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 5,581 Points: 11.33 Times Thanked: 136	The genetic basis of race is weak at best. While there are obviously genes that change skin tone and other things, the basis of those genes is unknown. Race would only hold up if it was discovered that people of other skin tones, etc. were a subgroup of homo sapiens. Otherwise, we'd find out that environment created our differences and we would have no leg to stand on in the race debate, since race would not exist. Not to mention that genetics can now tell you where your ancestors came from. It might be surprising to note that not all black people are descended from people of Africa and the same is true of people of other "races." Our origins are mixed. __________________ The Viking Amoeba Army is here! Run for your lives! Tumblr! Read my published fiction and non-fiction! And check out The World in the Satin Bag novel podcast. Help me become rich and donate! My Random Stuff: --The World in the Satin Bag: My science fiction, fantasy, and writing blog! --Check out Cheese & Crackers Original and Cheese & Crackers Superheroes --The Skiffy and Fanty Show --Duke and Zink Do America (Political Podcast) YWO Stuff: --Buy Survival By Storytelling Magazine (Issue One is available!) Support fellow YWO writers! --And don't forget to buy something from YWO's Zazzle Store! --Follow YWO on Twitter. Spoiler: This is a call to arms, gather soldiers, Time to go to war. This is a battle song, brothers and sisters, Time to go to war.

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11-08-2009, 09:39 PM	View Post #26 (Link)
Shaun Dead Person Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 5,581 Points: 11.33 Times Thanked: 136	No, I did not. But that's not really what we're supposed to be discussing here, so maybe we should get back on topic. Damn those gays for wanting homecoming King and Queen for their own! __________________ The Viking Amoeba Army is here! Run for your lives! Tumblr! Read my published fiction and non-fiction! And check out The World in the Satin Bag novel podcast. Help me become rich and donate! My Random Stuff: --The World in the Satin Bag: My science fiction, fantasy, and writing blog! --Check out Cheese & Crackers Original and Cheese & Crackers Superheroes --The Skiffy and Fanty Show --Duke and Zink Do America (Political Podcast) YWO Stuff: --Buy Survival By Storytelling Magazine (Issue One is available!) Support fellow YWO writers! --And don't forget to buy something from YWO's Zazzle Store! --Follow YWO on Twitter. Spoiler: This is a call to arms, gather soldiers, Time to go to war. This is a battle song, brothers and sisters, Time to go to war.

11-09-2009, 07:00 AM	View Post #27 (Link)
Jack Freelance Writer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,278 Points: 9.44 Times Thanked: 96	Ah, yes indeed. Well it kind of feels as though this debate has reached a conclusion, doesn't it? __________________ beautiful.

11-09-2009, 03:51 PM	View Post #28 (Link)
GeorgeMichael Freelance Writer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: No longer in a boring city! Posts: 1,434 Points: 7.3 Times Thanked: 54	I need some quick clarification Adri, or anyone else who knows the situation. Were people running as couples before? Like do you vote for a couple as King and Queen? At my homecoming it was an individual vote and usually you would get one random popular guy with a different girl, and it would hardly be one of the real couples, so I'm not sure on that level. If your school votes on couples then yes gay people should be allowed to run for king and queen as a couple, however, if it is an individual vote I think that guys can only run for king and girls can run for queen. I mean I didn't think it would bother me, it's just that they have their dance and everything and if some random guy and a gay guy one you can't really blame anyone for feeling uncomfortable with that. __________________ Reading List for January Salem's Lot - Stephen King A Game of Thrones - GRRM The Lost Symbol - Dan Brown If anyone is wondering, my boyfriend's internet is the absolute worst piece of shit in existence, and it causes my computer to slow down significantly anytime I enter the Chatroom. It also causes the chatroom to freeze anyway, so it's a bit futile to attempt to log in while I'm at his place.

11-09-2009, 05:08 PM	View Post #30 (Link)
GeorgeMichael Freelance Writer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: No longer in a boring city! Posts: 1,434 Points: 7.3 Times Thanked: 54	OK there definitely shouldn't be only king/king or queen/queen, but if the entire thing is a couples thing then I think that they should be allowed to run. It's not conventional to many people but that's not really the point. If it was all individual voting I would understand not letting guys run for queen or girls run for king, but if it's a couple race then they really shouldn't be discriminated against in that way. If people want to call them Queen/Queen or King/King then fine but since this is a couple's race then they really shouldn't be left out, it would be wrong. __________________ Reading List for January Salem's Lot - Stephen King A Game of Thrones - GRRM The Lost Symbol - Dan Brown If anyone is wondering, my boyfriend's internet is the absolute worst piece of shit in existence, and it causes my computer to slow down significantly anytime I enter the Chatroom. It also causes the chatroom to freeze anyway, so it's a bit futile to attempt to log in while I'm at his place.