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dragonheart
12-27-2010, 04:14 AM
How long does it usually take to get a response back on questions to the administrators? Is it just because it is the holidays that I am not hearing back?
Bowie20049
12-27-2010, 04:44 AM
What is your question?
How long does it usually take to get a response back on questions to the administrators? Is it just because it is the holidays that I am not hearing back?
Well, this question doesn't need to be posted as a thread in the newbie zone.
Anyway, admins are usually busy...
You can always contact any moderator/ crit sheriff. :)
Majyk
12-27-2010, 01:32 PM
(Moved out of the newbie zone.)
As Rose said, admins are usually busy, especially since it's pretty much only Shaun running things right now, as I haven't seen Andy around since September or something.
If you want more of a chance for your question to be answered, send it to multiple people--like moderators or even crit sheriffs.
What the others said. You can ask me or any of the moderators questions. The Admins are usually busy.
SapphireSeaBird
12-27-2010, 05:57 PM
Ask one of the mods. They'll get back to you a lot quicker :)
jordanisonfire
12-27-2010, 07:08 PM
This troll is going to a lot of effort.
dragonheart
12-28-2010, 01:00 AM
This troll is going to a lot of effort.
Actually this is the "troll's" mother. I have read the site rules. Obsenities, personal attacks, and harrassment aren't allowed. It is a parent's job to protect their children from bullying, even the verbal and written kind.
To everyone else: I don't have a question. I have been trying to get a response about some personal messages which I have flagged. I would cut and paste an example of jordanisonfire's wonderfully expressive writing skills, but I am sure that they would be flagged and deleted. So how do I get this dealt with so that my daughter can continue to benefit from this great site?
Bowie20049
12-28-2010, 02:29 AM
Well you can tell the moderators (the ones in the green). We are a lot more active than the admins since they have other things to do.
dragonheart
12-28-2010, 02:47 AM
Can you or the other moderators read private messages that have been sent from one person to another? I have flagged 2 of them. If you read the whole thread of messages I think you will get the level of inappropriateness; especially considering that they were sent to a 13 year old. Having read the rules for this site, and trusting that they are meant just as they are written, I believed this was a good place for my daughter to interact with other young writers. And it was up until jordanisonfire began attacking and harrassing her. I need to know that she is safe from his bullying before I can let her back on.
Bowie20049
12-28-2010, 05:51 AM
Well I can't do that, so can you please just forward them to me and I'll see what I can do.
jordanisonfire
12-28-2010, 01:35 PM
Well, here's what "she" said to me:
"Your parents never deserve to be sweard at. Grow up."
And here's what "she" said to sayuri:
"This is just plain sad. Are all child-parent relationships like this? You need to talk to your mom but don't accuse her, tell her you love her and that you want to have a better relationship. I hope things get better with you two and I'll pray for you."
Bearing in mind neither of us have even talked about our parents on this site, nevermind talked about swearing at them or anything like that. So yeah, I call troll on this one.
Peppermental
12-28-2010, 02:14 PM
I would have sworn that swore was the word she was looking for....
Go away troll. If by some miracle you aren't a troll, don't get so mad bro. Like, you know, pound some nati's and chill.
Well, if you think about it logically, I don't suppose there'd be a real purpose behind him sending her such PMs... especially that he doesn't know her, and no contact between both members has ever happened (not until one of them started sending offending PMs to the other). So, why would he do that?
Well, yes, we all know that Jordan can be a perrrvy spammer, but, meh.
That's my own opinion, though. Bah.
jordanisonfire
12-28-2010, 02:24 PM
If only they weren't a troll, Caleb. I mean, they're pretending to be a 13-year-old who loves Paolini, is fundamentally Christian and has missionary parents. How lovely would that be to rip into?
Lykaios
12-28-2010, 04:41 PM
Dragonheart - you sent the first message to Jordan, can you tell us why and what it was about, please?
dragonheart
12-29-2010, 05:21 AM
Again, I am not dragonheart. When jordanisonfire's messages to my daughter got too nasty and hateful I needed to get involved. He is right about how it got started. She was responding to some "Have you ever..." response. As Rose pointed out there is no logical reason for him to respond to her with swearing and personal attacks, but he did. Perhaps as he has implied he has a strong prejudice against all Christians or maybe that was just another tidbit to slam her about. I don't know. If he thought that her message to him was silly and/or childish that doesn't surprise me.
I would love to go on, but this is a site for young people, which I am not. I just want to make sure that my 13 year old can use this site safely. I have forwarded the relevant messages to a few moderators; now I will just wait and see if the site guidelines will be enforced or not.
Bowie20049
12-29-2010, 08:00 AM
Again, I am not dragonheart. When jordanisonfire's messages to my daughter got too nasty and hateful I needed to get involved. He is right about how it got started. She was responding to some "Have you ever..." response. As Rose pointed out there is no logical reason for him to respond to her with swearing and personal attacks, but he did. Perhaps as he has implied he has a strong prejudice against all Christians or maybe that was just another tidbit to slam her about. I don't know. If he thought that her message to him was silly and/or childish that doesn't surprise me.
I would love to go on, but this is a site for young people, which I am not. I just want to make sure that my 13 year old can use this site safely. I have forwarded the relevant messages to a few moderators; now I will just wait and see if the site guidelines will be enforced or not.
Never. You know it seems that alot of people think that their parents are bad especialy jordanisonfire, so have you recently given you parents a gift or made their day special?
I looked through about 15 pages and through Jordanisonfire's posts and he didn't really say anything in the Have you ever.
Not only that, but the PM was first sent by Dragonheart. So basically, it wasn't Jordanisonfire's fault that he responded that way because he didn't even know who Dragonheart was and why she was messaging him in the first place. To him, it was probably an attack by a random person who was previously banned due to bad behavior.
I have already messaged Jordanisonfire, so any future problems would be dealt with. Also, Dragonheart will be able to use this site safely. I still do not understand how she could not use this site safely, but yes. Everything should be dealt with now.
Shaun
12-29-2010, 03:13 PM
Just a note: I never received a PM about any of this, so I'm only now learning what has been going on today. In the future, if you need an admin, send PMs to me and to some of the mods (green) or even a Crit Sheriff (purple). Eventually, it will get back to me. I just have to know about it...
On another note: if you want any of us to do anything about anything on the site, we need the evidence. We can't just take people's words for it. The most we can do is flag someone in the staff room and keep an eye on them for the future. So if someone ever messages you something you feel is inappropriate, or says something filthy in a thread or on the Chatroom, save it and PM it to a mod or myself ASAP. I can't guarantee that every instance will be dealt with in the way you would like, but it will be dealth with.
dragonheart
12-31-2010, 01:43 AM
I looked through about 15 pages and through Jordanisonfire's posts and he didn't really say anything in the Have you ever.
Not only that, but the PM was first sent by Dragonheart. So basically, it wasn't Jordanisonfire's fault that he responded that way because he didn't even know who Dragonheart was and why she was messaging him in the first place. To him, it was probably an attack by a random person who was previously banned due to bad behavior.
I have already messaged Jordanisonfire, so any future problems would be dealt with. Also, Dragonheart will be able to use this site safely. I still do not understand how she could not use this site safely, but yes. Everything should be dealt with now.
She was responding to a comment that he made on the very first page of the "Have you ever...?" thread. It may have been presumptive of her to mention it to him, but to say that she was trolling is a blatant lie. He said that he had said, "F*** you" to his parents many times and "they deserved it." She disagreed that parents should be talked to like that. To which he responded, "Who the f*** are you?"
You said that you don't know how she could be unsafe here on this site. I am not worried about her physical safety, but I believe that when she states her opinion in a civil way she should be responded to in a civil way. I think that this site is a very valuable opportunity for her to be able to interact with different people from different backgrounds and belief systems. But jordanisonfire's attacks on her were hateful and bigoted.
Shaun
12-31-2010, 01:54 AM
Can you provide links to where these things were said?
Eilidh
12-31-2010, 02:00 AM
I'm not a mod or anything so this post might seem a little random, but it's my opinion so y'know.
I've been on this site since I was twelve and I've never had any problems, mainly because I pretty much mind my own business.
To send a message to someone that you've never spoken to, saying that how they treat their parents is wrong is rude. Yes it was her opinion but it doesn't exactly mean she should go and voice it and then be shocked when she receives a harsh reply. Telling someone to "grow up" isn't exactly being civil either, is it?
I'm not saying that she should have been sworn at, I'm saying that she should have had more sense than go and well, sort of provoke people. Trust me your daughter will be perfectly fine on this site as long as she doesn't say things that could be offensive.
Shaun
12-31-2010, 02:07 AM
The f-word is borderline uncivil, and certainly tactless in most situations. That's not to say I've never used it (I've used it a lot in my life), but I do need to see the full context as it appears on the site. Context is everything. If this is a case of butting in where one isn't wanted, then I have to deal with it with that context in mind. If what happened is something else, then I have to change my stance. Right now, I have nothing. I have people saying X happened, but as silly as this sounds...people are innocent until proven otherwise (usually). So links to the content are essential. If PMs were sent, then I need those too. Otherwise, I can't really do anything other than say "it has been noted" and tell the mods to keep an eye out.
I don't want this to be a public argument over what happened, so I am going to close the thread. If dragonheart or his/her parents wish to discuss all of this with me, then they should feel free to PM me as they see fit (please do). I don't want YWO to feel like a site that isn't safe for young writers, since it's a site meant for them, so if we can resolve this as soon as possible, that would be great.
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