This site is going to look like a joke unless...

[Steak-Ums]

We stop with the ridculous onslaught of TBRPGs and word games.

We need to step up on critting and posting writing. The literature forums are dead.

This post goes for me as well, and I'm stepping up crits too.

[Rafael Domination]

Actually...you can think of the RPG's as a form of writing work-out. People must try to keep track of events, keep their plot dominant while going along with others, let characters interact with each other, etc, etc. They can also inspire. Matter of fact is, I just had a few plots blossom cuz' of them, so they really shouldn't be stopped...:D

I get what you mean with the crits though...and ya, I have been critting...

Edit: maybe if everyone submitted a tad bit more?

[GeorgeMichael]

I've stumbled on my critting too. I was doing so well...


I'll get right to critting much more...on December 1st though :)

[Steak-Ums]

Well not stopped, but really, there's like twenty going on at once.

[Rafael Domination]

Erm...there's only less than ten active right now, but yeah, I get what you mean...

Oh well...let the critting begin! :D

[Nyx]

We stop with the ridculous onslaught of TBRPGs and word games.

We need to step up on critting and posting writing. The literature forums are dead.

This post goes for me as well, and I'm stepping up crits too.


I can agree in abosoloutely no way. RPGs are there for inspiration and they sure as hell are great for that. They're a great practice of creating quick plots and battle scenes. Also they are one of the top reasons I check the site so often.

The literature forums could be more active but I don't see how taking away the fun stuff would help that, it would in fact probably make not only those forums but all of this website dead and empty of active users.

[Shaun]

I *try* to get at least one crit in every weekend. It doesn't always work, and I'm behind on a lot of stuff, but still.

[Rafael Domination]

I *try* to get at least one crit in every weekend. It doesn't always work, and I'm behind on a lot of stuff, but still.

I sense sheepishness, Shaun :D

Don't worry, I myself haven't been critting as often as I want to...but maybe if people didn't decide to post threads in such monumentally gargantuan chunks, maybe it could be a little easier for us...?

[Nyx]

I sense sheepishness, Shaun :D

Don't worry, I myself haven't been critting as often as I want to...but maybe if people didn't decide to post threads in such monumentally gargantuan chunks, maybe it could be a little easier for us...?

Yea I've noticed the problem with the long pieces, but maybe we can just crit it in smaller chunks if its too much?

[Rafael Domination]

Ya....that makes sense too...

(NOOOOOOO! I AM going dumb....Why didn't I think of that?)

[Nyx]

Interesingly enough, although it sounds like the best solution I've never actually done that. If I crit something in small chunks I feel like I haven't done a good job as a critiquer but then again...it takes hours to crit some of the longer pieces of writing.

[Shaun]

Well it doesn't seem like there is a lot of short fiction up. I personally don't have the time to crit everything up there. I critted Andy's because I owed him crits and because he has been babbling about his damned story for so long I wanted to know what it was all about (I never got to see it until YWO popped into existence). And Shadow asked me for a crit of his story, and I gladly gave that. I've done some poems too, since those are generally pretty quick and, well, I should give some attention to poets because poetry is really hard to do well...and even if you think you're doing well, sometimes you're not, and vice versa.

But yeah. I think if everyone who is posting material did just as many crits we'd be fine.

[GeorgeMichael]

...


:( Those large chunk things are about me aren't they?

I could post in smaller portions...

anyways...yeah I do plan on catching up on my crits.

[Rafael Domination]

NO NO! :D

I'm guilty of massive chunks too.

[Steak-Ums]

Massive chunks are good though, they show how much a writer has developed, and it shows how dedicated the critique-r is to his/her fellow writers.

[Rafael Domination]

Yeah...while I admit that...it's also easier on the eyes to paste smaller chunks from a larger one done in Microsoft Word...

[Nyx]

...


:( Those large chunk things are about me aren't they?

I could post in smaller portions...

anyways...yeah I do plan on catching up on my crits.

Nope, well not what I meant anyways. Your pieces are fine, not too long,.

[Carraka]

Now I'm going to emulate myself and ask, "What about me? Is my stuff too long too?"

On the other hand, people do crit it. Sooooo. Yeah. Thanks, everyone! Sorry for not critting your stuff, but you know, NaNo, heh heh....

[Rafael Domination]

Ah, Nano: the bane and blessing of November...

[GeorgeMichael]

NaNo! I know it's like the enemy of crits isn't it?

And I now have around 32000 words, three days left I have to start writing like crazy. If I have time and my mind all of a sudden starts shooting out ideas I might be able to pull off my greatest comeback and accomplishment ever :D:D


and then I can go back to critting like I used to. :)

[Rafael Domination]

You can say that again! :D

It's like the Stress Godzilla

...and that's why RPG's are there to calm down my nerves...

[Imelda]

I'd like to blame my lack of crits on Nano, but I can't. I'd like to blame it on TW and all the critting I do there. But I can't. So I'll blame it on Shaun.

Anyway, the RPGs on here aren't moronic, I think they're useful to a lot of people.

[Rafael Domination]

Uh-oh!

Shauuun! What do you have to say in your defense?

[Andy]

I do think we could spend a bit more time critiquing, but I think NaNo's a big factor. Most people don't feel like critiquing anything after they're done 1,600 a day for NaNo. Once it's over, we'll see how it goes. I'll bet anything the literature forums will be more active. Roleplaying is like a way to cool off after NaNo.

[jordanisonfire]

I crit sometimes. According to Andrew, more spam and less critting (but still critting) is ok for now, as we'd have to double the posts so far by over 2, 000 to make Andrew and Shaun pay more than what they're paying now for the site. They pay like $50 dollars a year for this site, I believe? I get that once a week. It might not be the case for them, of course, but I'm going to try and do a lot of Christmas shopping (mostly for myself) on the YWO Amazon store. So, yeah... I contribute in some ways, even if they go unnoticed.

[Shaun]

It's actually something like 6 or 7 USD a month (which we pay the full 12 months of). It's not much at all. The sales on our UK division of our store covered that easily (except we don't get reimbursed for that money right away).

As for my defense. I have no defense. She's my girlfriend...if she wants to blame me for something I really can't argue. She wins by default.

Just realize that for some of us on the site, we are at a very different level of schooling or in a different stage of life. Currently Andy and I are both University students, meaning we're taking full loads of Uni level classes (I'm taking almost all upper-division courses), and we're both studying and working hard. Andy has to maintain this site, because I'm not a computer wiz as far as coding and the like goes. He also is taking his writing very seriously and doing NaNo. I'm taking my writing exceptionally seriously because I'm at a point now where I have to get out of this 'non-published' phase. So I'm writing novels and short stories and trying my hardest to make them of quality and get them published. I'm also working on the site, among other junk. But in all that Andy and I both have time, usually, to do a crit a week, or more if needed. Everyone else should strive to do a crit a week too. Quite honestly if everyone crits once a week all the stories in the lit section will have 6 or 7 crits easy. Not all of us are posting work right now (such as me, and Andy isn't posting much other than The Winnower), so it shouldn't be hard for us to get lots of crits done...maybe we should all make it a goal to do at least one crit a week?

[Rafael Domination]

She's my girlfriend...

Really? :O

...and yeah, about the crit a week thing...I could totally go with that!

[Carraka]

I could do that too!

Except not this week. Because I haven't written anything yet today. Yeah. I blame Imelda (who in turn will blame Shaun,) because that's how the cycle works.

[GeorgeMichael]

I could do that too

[Rafael Domination]

Yay! Steak-ums made a difference...

(The RPG's stay, though...:D)

[GeorgeMichael]

lol, of course they stay, but a difference was made :)

I would write more but I'm just trying to relax my brain before I begin killing it trying to come up with more stuff again :)

[Nyx]

one crit a week sounds like a good idea...:)

[Carraka]

Didn't he also call for a decrease in Word Games?

-glances around-

SBS happens to be the most posted-in and most viewed thread on the other site, by a considerable margin.

[Shaun]

Yes, she is my girlfriend :P. So, by default I get blamed for everything :P. She'll refute this and blame me for saying that...which fits right into the cycle, but it will still be my fault :P.

Good, now that we all agree, one crit a week everyone!

[Carraka]

We should create a punishment.

If you don't crit every week, we will ban you give you moldy bread! o.O

I'm going to be getting a lot of moldy bread.

[GeorgeMichael]

lol, yes moldy bread... the perfect punishment...

[Rafael Domination]

I say a slow death by cheese graters dipped in lemon juice...

[Nyx]

I'm all for the moldy bread idea:P and it happens alot then we'll go to Rafael's sugessted punishement -grabs cheese grator-

[Carraka]

Yeah. If all of you die, you can't crit my writing! That would be horrible. x.x Who would be left to praise me and ignore all my faults?!

[Rafael Domination]

Andy and Shaun...the Admins are immortal...

[Carraka]

Oh.

Right.

Then I support the cheese grater also. We'll need to have someone keep track of who's doing the critting and who isn't. I nominate -- Hypocrit! Because he would totally be impartial, I'm sure.

[Nyx]

Ok sure, but he has to agree first of course. We could even make a thread for this:)

[Rafael Domination]

Hypo's gone. I saw his thread on TW....he's like, ditched the writing world...

There goes the Human Natural Selection Phenomenon...

[Carraka]

Then it's settled! Hips it is!

(I'm really gone now.)

[Nyx]

Sure, sounds good.:)

[Imelda]

Yes, she is my girlfriend :P. So, by default I get blamed for everything :P. She'll refute this and blame me for saying that...which fits right into the cycle, but it will still be my fault :P.

Good, now that we all agree, one crit a week everyone!

I won't refute it. You do get blamed, and the responsibility connected to any of my failures rests solely on you. :p

So yeah, if you get mad at me, just blame it on Shaun and cut out a step. :)

[Shaun]

Wonderful...now I'm going to get blamed for everything. Blame Famine and War on me guys...since it's okay now I guess...

[jordanisonfire]

Don't be so mean to Shaun! It's not his fault everything's his fault! :P
Naw, Shaun, you don't deserve to be blamed for anything.

[Imelda]

Oh he gets compensation. And when we're arguing, while stuff is always his fault, I'm always wrong :glare: which sucks, but he refuses to accept the absolute truth of everything I say ...

And Shaun, are you saying that famine and war are my fault?!

[Shaun]

No, I'm saying they're my fault silly. And by the way, just because we have 'arguments', which aren't real arguments, but debates that don't involve yelling, doesn't mean I actually win. I'm only stubborn because that's who I am. Technically you're right by default because you're a woman.
For all you guys out there: You'll be much better off in the long run if you accept that women are always right even if they are wrong. If you have an argument over something and she's blaming you for something...well...it's your fault even if it isn't. If she is upset because a car exploded on the moon...and she blames you...your fault. The sooner you accept that the better. I accept it...I just don't give in :P. And she'll hate me for that I imagine...

[Imelda]

Yeah it kinda ... drives me nuts. Since you won't accept say ... concrete scientific findings as evidence. I mean, I'm no debater, but I know more about genetics than you. :glare: One day you'll accept that Martian bacteria and Earth bacteria could have a common origin. Even if I have to mutate bacteria beyond all recognition to prove it. Ooooooooh I could use LSB1 ...

Somebody stop me now before I actually do that. :S

[Shaun]

We weren't arguing that Martian and Earth bacteria have a common origin. We were arguing as to whether or not they are different, which you were arguing that they aren't. We all came from a common origin, no matter how we look at it. Whether God put us here or we evolved or the Big Bang pooped us out. That wasn't the argument. What we were arguing about is the gas and carbon signatures that can be found in Martian fossilized bacteria and in the rocks that identifies it with that planet. This is how we can tell if something is from Mars or not. That was the argument and you were trying to convince me that you can't tell and that mutation would make something indistinguishable, which isn't true because we can look at the rocks from which these bacteria have been found and tell that they were in fact from Mars, since rocks are not manipulated genetically as something like bacteria would be...since it's..you know...inorganic.
I don't know why you think we were arguing what you said above though...

[Rafael Domination]

Wow...we went from how we can improve this site, to bacteria on Mars...nice :D

(And you two better not break up, or I'll cry)

[Shaun]

Umm, well I don't think we're planning on that happening :P

[Nyx]

Wow...we went from how we can improve this site, to bacteria on Mars...nice :D



Yes I'm sure that was Steak-Ums's vision for this thread:P

[Rafael Domination]

Yup! He really has made a difference!

[Nyx]

A difference to bacteria on Mars or the site?

[Rafael Domination]

I'd say both...

He even got Meldy and Shaun together in love! All in a day's work for him, I guess...

[Nyx]

Oh yes, then he definately deserves a pat on the back:D

[Shaun]

Technically he wasn't involved in our relationship. I'm not exactly sure anyone but Imelda and I were involved in that. It's really interesting how it developed, at least for me. I didn't see it coming at all, and now I'm happier than I've ever been. So, *glows*

[Imelda]

We weren't arguing that Martian and Earth bacteria have a common origin. We were arguing as to whether or not they are different, which you were arguing that they aren't. We all came from a common origin, no matter how we look at it. Whether God put us here or we evolved or the Big Bang pooped us out. That wasn't the argument. What we were arguing about is the gas and carbon signatures that can be found in Martian fossilized bacteria and in the rocks that identifies it with that planet. This is how we can tell if something is from Mars or not. That was the argument and you were trying to convince me that you can't tell and that mutation would make something indistinguishable, which isn't true because we can look at the rocks from which these bacteria have been found and tell that they were in fact from Mars, since rocks are not manipulated genetically as something like bacteria would be...since it's..you know...inorganic.
I don't know why you think we were arguing what you said above though...

Allow me to remove the glow for a little while. :)

?!?!?!?!

Then you weren't listening to me, which annoys me even more! :mad: I said SEVERAL times that they weren't the same, I would NEVER say they were the same, the only way I was saying they were the same was a carbon-based, DNA/RNA-based level, which is not saying they're the same, it's saying they're the same type of life and not something completely new. By common origin I mean the same biological source, not the big bang or 'God', something far smaller than that.

You were saying that Earth and Martian bacteria did NOT come from a common origin, and I was saying that they could have, and of course the carbon signatures would be different because they're spent time evolving and using Mars carbon to grow on, so of course they would have different carbon signatures.

And I was arguing, you weren't, you were just saying the same things over and over and ignoring my scientific evidence while I got increasingly irate ...

If you'd been ill when that happened I could understand it, but now it appears you just don't listen to a word I say. *Sniff*

Ok, you can have your glow back now. You can have a pirate too. :pirate: And you might as well have a hug. :hug:

And I'll have ice cream. :icecream:

[Andy]

Shaun, if you're going to continue this, could you make a new thread for it?

[Shaun]

I'll just take the argument into MSN with Imelda, Andy. No problems at all :P