da BATTLE OF THE SEXES

[Rafael Domination]

No, this isn't some sexist thread on which one is better. This is an argument stems from one between a Celestial husband and wife called Zeus and Hera. I got this off them.

Who has more fun? The guys? Or the gals?

(Note: this this can go four ways. The guys can say they have more fun and back it up. Or the girls say they hame more fun and back it up. Or the guys can accuse the girls of having more fun and hence, they should stop whining about their lives already, or the girls can accuse the guys of having fun and stop being so rowdy all the time.)


(PS...Anyone 'in between' (:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:) can still chip in their opinions.)






ALLEZ CUISINE!!! (never mind :D)

[dj4ever]

It depends on what you enjoy doing. Can I say both then? Because I really think that you can have tons of fun with either sex depending on what you are doing and the people you are with.

[Rafael Domination]

Well...everything. Or just over all. You folks decide. ^^

*I'd say girls have more fun. They get away a lot of things guys don't. Like hitting the opposite sex. If a girls his a guy, she's fierce. If a guy hits a girl, he's a total jerk, loser, moron, pig*

[appleofmyeye]

Girls flirt with multiple guys and she's a slut. Guys flirt with lots of girls and he's awesome.

I know that is a generalization but whatever.

[dj4ever]

Amen Sista

[Nyx]

I gotta say, girls have more fun. We get to be bitchy, start fights, talk behind people's back without being accused of being gay, and hit guys. What's more, we have boobs.

[Rafael Domination]

Aahahahah! :D

But who is it who we guys have to relinquish our seats on the bus to? And if we don't, we automatically turn into icons of...well...being-not-gentlemanly. And if a girl relinquished her seat to us, we're automatically regarded as incapable of standing properly.

[Uriel]

When I think about it, girls do have more fun, simply because they can do more things without being accused of being gay. For instance, if a guy said he wanted to go shopping, his guy friends would think of that as a gay statement.

[dj4ever]

Never in my life has a guy ever relinquished there seat to me. and frankly if they were with their friends that would be called *cough cough*, many nasty names.

[Nyx]

When I think about it, girls do have more fun, simply because they can do more things without being accused of being gay. For instance, if a guy said he wanted to go shopping, his guy friends would think of that as a gay statement.

^ I totally agree with that, girls get to experiment with so much more stuff : makeup, shopping, GOSSIPING, etc without being accused of being gay.

[Rafael Domination]

True.

Although make-up will make a guy look emo with the right shades.

*No, I did not try it out on myself :D*

[Zaphkiel]

I find women much more interesting, not to mention they have more freedom than us guys.

[dj4ever]

Tru dat. Plus, we also get to play sports and wear pants and all that jazz. Guys are way more limited when it comes to freedom to do activities. But, girls are abused all the time by perverted guys and people just think its all good....even the girls.


Well, some girls.

[Nyx]

Woah, you're right. I can't believe I totally forgot about abuse. Guys are much rarely abused, whilst many girls get raped and harrassed. Maybe guys ARE luckier.

[dj4ever]

I still just bugs me that girls at my school actually like it when guys like sexual abuse them. How is that helping the rest of us that don't really appreciate it!!!

[Uriel]

I think girls should be more aggresive towards guys like that.:D

[appleofmyeye]

Yes, and get gossiped about for being a whiney bitch? Both sides are pretty horrible.

On that note, most girls are bitches. There's back-stabbing, boy-stealing, and overall meanness from girls. Guys seem much more accepting.

[Uriel]

Yes, we are!:D...When it comes to girls, otherwise, men are bastards.

[dj4ever]

Hahah i would have to agree with both of you. But I'm not itching to become a unisex either it's not like they're accepted.

[Rafael Domination]

It's nice to know that that there are a lot of activities men and women can do together, though ^^

Like hiking, cooking, and other stuff.

[appleofmyeye]

Yes, and when guys do things that other guys would consider 'gay' most girls like it. Cooking, shopping, ect.

[Uriel]

It's nice to know that that there are a lot of activities men and women can do together, though ^^

Like hiking, cooking, and other stuff.

They can also do sex together!:D

[Zaphkiel]

They can also do sex together!:D

I agree with my little brother...

[Rafael Domination]

At least you two agree. My brother and I can't agree on anything. :D

I have to boss him around to get what I want.

[appleofmyeye]

Uriel, that was epic :).

[Uriel]

Uriel, that was epic :).

Thank you!! You're so kind to me!!!!:blush::blush::D:D

[Zaphkiel]

Thank you!! You're so kind to me!!!!:blush::blush::D:D

Uriel...you are a...cheeseball...with extra cheese...chedder cheese by the way...with a little bit of swiss...please excuse my lameness at the moment...I'm having a brain freeze...:mellow:

[dj4ever]

Oh brain freezes are awful... Im so completely sorry.

[Rafael Domination]

I take it Zeus won then? Girls do have more fun? :D Or is there anyone who says no? Someone get Shaun. A debate is not a debate unless he uses his Debate Power.

[Nyx]

On that note, most girls are bitches. There's back-stabbing, boy-stealing, and overall meanness from girls. Guys seem much more accepting.

The bitchiness and backstabbing is 90 % of the fun of being a girl ^^

[dj4ever]

whats the other ten percent?

[Zaphkiel]

The bitchiness and backstabbing is 90 % of the fun of being a girl ^^

I must agree...

[Nyx]

whats the other ten percent?

I'd say 5% is like getting to do everything without being labeled (ex.gay ) and 5% we have boobs xD:rolleyes:

[Uriel]

Yes, boobs are pretty nice... So I guess the girls have more fun.:D

[Nyx]

Haha, you're awesome Uriel.

[Zombified]

I respectfully remind you to keep this thread on topic.

Even though its a...well...interesting topic.

No more spam.

Posts will be deleted from here on out if not pertaining to the debate.

Thank you

[Nyx]

Psh, that's just your lame way of saying you don't have any.

I declare this debate won: girls have more fun.

EDIT: ack, sorry, didn't see Zomb's post.

[Rafael Domination]

It's not won until Shaun has his say. There are still so many topics to explore. Everything from sports to constitutional rights still needs to be discussed. And also, who HAD more fun? Let's look to the past? Don't you think guys used to flourish in that patriarchal society back then? Maybe not today, but still...the past holds significance, ya?

*There, that was on topic. I still think Nyx can't handle the proof*

[Eilidh]

probably woman, cause like if you say to your friend whos a boy "you look rough" they arent going to mind that much, but whereas if you say it to a girl, you start world war three.

[jordanisonfire]

Why the hell did you start this thread, Raf, haha?
Well, I would refer to that old line, "bros before hoes", but that doesn't really apply to me, as I'm bi, haha.
Guys and girls can be just as awesome as each other. For example, I'm a geek and the guys I hang around with are just as fun to hang around with as the geeky girls.
So, it's both ways, for me!

And Zaph may need a man bra for his pecks, never mind his biceps, haha.

[jordanisonfire]

Bwahahaha, just cos I'm bi doesn't mean I'd go out with any guy on here. Meh, Zaph isn't my taste. I prefer guys that look like they're from an anime, haha. Zaph is too muscular.

And I do prefer girls over guys. I'd rather have a girlfriend than a boyfriend, if they had the same personality and looked similar.

[appleofmyeye]

Uriel, if there is a ShadowxZaph pairing, there has to be a ShadowxUriel pairing! :p. Okay, okay, I'm sorry. Back on topic.

Since we are sorta on this subject, it means something totally different to be a gay woman than be a gay man. Gay men are seen as very feminine and there seems to be more gay hate on that side. If a woman is gay however... people seem more accepting. That could be wrong but what I think is if a woman is with another woman she is seen as more feminine. And since females are meant to be feminine it is okay.

But that belongs in a different debate it seems.

[Zombified]

Ahem...

Posts have been deleted.

Stay on topic, fellas.

[jordanisonfire]

Edit: Woops, sorry, Zomb. Posted just after you did, didn't notice your post.

[Uriel]

Ahem...

Posts have been deleted.

Stay on topic, fellas.

We were on topic! Do you always act like a state trooper? You don't get paid for being a mod, you know! It's not like you'll get beheaded if you don't delete every little thing that's just a little "off topic". You should talk to Andy and Shan before you just start deleting stuff. It's very rude! It's not like we're disobeying the rules! We were having a good descussion that delt with different sexes and what not! Some people take pride in the posts you just delete when you feel like! I bet you delete stuff off the chatbox too! I declare, this is unfair! You should be more considerate!

[Zaphkiel]

Calm down little brother, getting angry over trivial things isn't good for your health.

[Zombified]

We were on topic! Do you always act like a state trooper? You don't get paid for being a mod, you know! It's not like you'll get beheaded if you don't delete every little thing that's just a little "off topic". You should talk to Andy and Shan before you just start deleting stuff. It's very rude! It's not like we're disobeying the rules! We were having a good descussion that delt with different sexes and what not! Some people take pride in the posts you just delete when you feel like! I bet you delete stuff off the chatbox too! I declare, this is unfair! You should be more considerate!

You done?

Good.

Don't start trouble, kiddo.

Not the best thing to do.

[Zaphkiel]

Uh-oh, here we go.

[Uriel]

You done?

Good.

Don't start trouble, kiddo.

Not the best thing to do.


Meet me in the Chatbox...:glare:

[Zombified]

No.

I don't have time to argue with children on a writing forum.

You got a problem with the way I run things, then tell Shaun or Andy. Go ahead, tell them what a huge asshole I am because I delete spam and make sure that people don't post useless things to increase their post count or flood a debate.

Tell them what a dick I am because I make sure people stick to the discussion and I maintain order of the site when they cannot because they are in school.

Go ahead.

Tell them.

Any more bullshit arguments and whining can go in the Chatbox but not here.

Next person to start anything will get this thread closed.

Have a nice day.

[Shaun]

I wouldn't even know how to answer this question. I'm a guy and I'm fairly certain I don't want to be a girl. I don't want to give birth or go through the other "things" that women have to deal with. So, I'd say guys have it better, but maybe that's because I'm a wimp and giving birth or other things makes me quiver with fear...

[jordanisonfire]

Don't worry, Shaun, I think a lot of guys would feel the same way. I certainly do. Giving birth just makes me feel... argh. If my wife (or possibly my girlfriend, but I doubt it) were to go into labour, I don't think I'd be able to watch the birth. I'd be cringing too much and stuff, haha.

[dj4ever]

Well good thing you never have to deal with it. Honestly, I really do agree with guys with some stuff about women. I mean seriously it's just a little nasty. I think women should get so much more respect then they do for giving birth and, well dealing with all the other stuff. But guess what, we don't get like any respect at all!!! So not fair.

[Shaun]

You get plenty of respect from me. I just don't want to do it and if I were a woman I wouldn't want to do it then either.

[dj4ever]

I think many women feel its worth the pain and sacrifice to get a child. I don't know if I feel that way now, but maybe I will later in life.

[appleofmyeye]

When (or if) I give birth, bring on the morphine.

[dj4ever]

Amen sista

[Nyx]

Yea, I don't think I'll ever give birth. But giving birth can't really counter girls having more fun cause it's not like girls HAVE to give birth, they have the choice to not. So yea, and I don't know maybe getting to see a child begin with yourself is another great thing that guys miss out on. True, it's a major pain in the poor mother's vag, but it probably creates a connection that guys will never understand.

[Jessica]

Lol , Raffy. I love iron chief XD

I think that girls can have more fun in the sense that it is so much easier for us to get laid (not trying to be rude or anything) So we can go out and drink, you know, party, not have to worry about the rejection But we also have downsides. We're bitchy, bleed out our vag, and have to have an annoying child cooking in us like an oven for 9 months only to you know have it back talk us in like 15 years

[jordanisonfire]

Meh, I don't know if I want children. Maybe when I've earned my fortune and I'm old, I'll start an orphanage and watch all the little children grow (in a non-paedo way, of course).

[Uriel]

Meh, I don't know if I want children. Maybe when I've earned my fortune and I'm old, I'll start an orphanage and watch all the little children grow (in a non-paedo way, of course).

Check your pm box.

Antway, when I get older, I want to have nine kids running around my house!:D

[appleofmyeye]

One kid for me.

[ElephntFalingOffClif]

This is very stereotypical. Just because one guy has fun doesn't mean all guys have fun and vice versa. In my opinion there is a fair mix of fun and non-fun people withbothe sexes.

[Nyx]

Check your pm box.

Antway, when I get older, I want to have nine kids running around my house!:D
Nine kids? I pity your future wife.

This is very stereotypical. Just because one guy has fun doesn't mean all guys have fun and vice versa. In my opinion there is a fair mix of fun and non-fun people withbothe sexes.

Well duh. We're just trying to find which one GENERALLY has the more fun.

[jordanisonfire]

But making those kids sure will be fun!

-grins-

-grin goes-

I'm really not that perverted.

[dj4ever]

psh. yeah right. :P

[Uriel]

But making those kids sure will be fun!

-grins-

-grin goes-

I'm really not that perverted.

It sure will, my bed will probably break!:D

[dj4ever]

*shakes head and sighs*
Wait, nine isn't a very big number....

[appleofmyeye]

But making those kids sure will be fun!

-grins-

-grin goes-

I'm really not that perverted.

But Uriel is ;)

[dj4ever]

They both are very perverted and they know it.

Alright now lets stop with the spam.

Girls have more fun, because were better and cooler. Plus, guys are too rowdy.

[appleofmyeye]

Meh, pervs are more fun to talk to than prudes.

Oh, and girls have more fun but it takes more effort to be a girl.

[dj4ever]

Yes that's true. Have you noticed that girls are just way more noticed. Everyones just always judgiing girls way more than guys.

[Uriel]

I am a bit perverted.


Guys have more fun because we're open to more adventures in life.

[jordanisonfire]

Meh, pervs are more fun to talk to than prudes.


Because we make you feel good, bwahahaha.
Anyways, since we're back on topic, I think we can equally have fun. I mean, I consider skiing to be fun. Both guys and girls can do that and have equal ability in doing it.

[Rafael Domination]

Agreed. Still, you have to admit, when a girl can drag her boyfriend to the mall and into all those fancy stores and make him buy everything she wants and have him carry three tons all the way back home while she skips merrily about...the guys are miserable in this round. ^^

[dj4ever]

Yes, but you could say no to that. You don't have to come.

[Rafael Domination]

Are you KIDDING!!!

When the girl is hotter than the sun, with a cute accent and face, and has the charm of a trillion dollars, I HAVE to come. That can sometimes put us guys in the frying pan...we can't say no to our babes. Some can, a lot can't.

[dj4ever]

Well then you should be happy you get to spend time with her and you shouldn't bitch about it! :P

[Rafael Domination]

I'm miserable AT the mall. She's happy at the mall.

I'm happy when I get back home and she's all over me thanking me for being such a help and snuggling into my chest. She's happy doing the same thing.

She had fun in BOTH occasions. I had fun in only one. While I don't mind that scenario, the stats state that she had more fun than me. :D

[Shaun]

Actually, Raf, I'm lucky. Imelda doesn't like clothes shopping. Instead...we go shopping for books, which we both love. And we share duties on carrying things. She carries some stuff, I carry some stuff. Simple. Then again, I'm incredibly lucky when it comes to having a significant other...cause Imelda is perfect and awesome...

[Rafael Domination]

:D

Aww...that was cute! Y'know what? I'm quoting that and sending it to her in a PM.

Still...who do you think has more fun, her or you?

[Shaun]

I don't know who has more fun. I just know we both have fun.

[Rafael Domination]

Well that's nice. You aren't going have the Zeus-Hera argument later on.

[jordanisonfire]

I think Shaun is more fun. You can tease him a bit and he'll just laugh along with it, whereas Imelda gets all mad at you. And Shaun's a ninja-admin.

[Rafael Domination]

Oh yeah....ninjas rock.

Still, as a Pirate, Imelda can get drunk and all while bathing in gold coins. *Eek! Must get picture out of my brain*


I think we should tackle this topic in segments, though. For example, who has more fun i their private life, extra-curricular activities etc, etc and tally up the 'scores'. Maybe then we can obtain better conclusions? :D

[jordanisonfire]

Dude, we're Ninjagods, we can get drunk and have as many women as we want and we don't need gold coins.

[dj4ever]

we can get drunk and have as many women as we want

Psh. Yeah right.

[jordanisonfire]

We can just conjure up nude women if we so wish.

[dj4ever]

Sure, but they would just run away from you the minute you created them

[Rafael Domination]

NEUOOOOOOOO! Zomb, don't close this thread!


Ahem...back to the topic! What list of 'areas' in life can we tackle to cook up a tallied score of who has more fun?


*Ninjagods have the most fun, I admit, but they're not exactly the normal masses, eh? And no, they won't run away. They'll be too enthralled by out perfectness*

[appleofmyeye]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/vectorferret/Motivation%20Posters/motivator942822.jpg

nuff said.

[jordanisonfire]

My "Ninjas With Guitars" one is better.

[Uriel]

Here's something my brother would say: '...No comment...:mellow:'.

:D

[jordanisonfire]

Zaph is a samurai. Are you ninja or samurai, Uriel?

[Uriel]

I'm a Samurai.:D

[appleofmyeye]

Ninjas with guitars was pretty epic :).

[jordanisonfire]

Thought so, Uriel.

And of course it was epic - it was two ninjas with guitars! Kick-ass fighting style combined with kick-ass music.

[Nyx]

Nuff of the ninja talk and back to the original topic.

Or I'll swoop down with my modly powers and banish this thread forever and ever and ever! Muahahaha.

Erm, right okay, back to topic guys.

[appleofmyeye]

Alright, we must obey Nyx's modliness.

I was just thinking, women in general have much worse lives than men. I personally don't but around the world women are second class citizens. In many countries women have no rights at all. Men, however, are in power wherever they are. So... being a women is a disadvantage unless you live under Westernized government.

[dj4ever]

It's still a disadvantage even if you live in a westernized country. Think of all the crap we put up with.

[appleofmyeye]

Okay, so it's disadvantage vs. greater disadvantage. I'm thankful though that I do have rights and I can make something of myself.

[jordanisonfire]

It's because the women before just lay down and took it. Now they've decided they want more rights, which just makes men laugh (not me, by the way) at why they've only just wanted them. But the problem is, they'd have all these rights if they didn't still support the stereotypical woman. Most women (not all) will go on about how men see them as inferiors, then they'll marry (not keeping their own name), have kids and the only exciting thing they'll have left is when they get a new pair of shoes, whereas the man sits back, lets her do all the housework (which she does) and can do whatever fun things he wants whilst she'd doing it. So, basically, most women (again, not all) bring the stereotypes down on themselves. They really need to do something about it rather than succumb to them and then whine about it later, still not doing anything.

[dj4ever]

That's exactly the problem though! The women who don't do any of those things are in a smaller population than the women that do. So women that do care about there rights don't get any. It's completely unfair. I can't see how any woman wouldn't want all the rights she can possibly get. We all need to stand up for ourselves and make everyone equal!!!! That sounds cliche but its true. I mean really that's why things become cliche, everyone says them because they are the truth.

[jordanisonfire]

True, dat. I'm not a campaigner for women's rights, but I believe everyone should have equal basic rights, not fully-fledged everyone-is-equal-in-all-forms communism stuff.

[dj4ever]

That's basically what I think too, I mean I don't think women should have more than men. I just think everyone should be treated the same and that's not communism.

[jordanisonfire]

What I meant was that we should all have the same basic rights, as in we should still live in a society that is capitalist, not one where we all get rations and we all get our jobs assigned to us by the government.

[dj4ever]

Right. Looks like were on the same page.

[jordanisonfire]

I think everyone on this site is on the same page.

[dj4ever]

No actually a lot of the time were all looking at different pages. hehe

[jordanisonfire]

...have I missed some bit in the "debate" or are you joking?

[dj4ever]

joking

[jordanisonfire]

Ah, my intelligence has been saved of a blow to its ego.

[Nyx]

So over all score:
(tell me if I missed something we discussed)

Men:
-generally have more rights
-get away with flirting with tons of girls without being a "slut"
-have to take orders from their girlfriends (shopping and what not)

3!


Women:
-can hit guys
-gossip, shop, etc without being stereotyped or labeled as "gay"
- get to wear pants AND skirts
- (negative point) get raped and abused more often
-more accepted when gay
-have to give birth
-(negative) PMS/period

3!

We have a tie! Keep at it!

[Rafael Domination]

I'll thank you for showing intelligence, oh mighty Nyx! :D


Some people might want to leave it at a tie...but not me! Who's with ME!!!

[dj4ever]

I'm with ya!

Girls must prevail
:p

[Nyx]

I'll thank you for showing intelligence, oh mighty Nyx! :D



Show your thanks by bowing down to my powers, muahahaha.
Erm, yea, nevermind.

So what do you guys think could throw off the tie?

[Rafael Domination]

Well, I've read over the statistics, and it's true. MEN ARE BETTER DRIVERS THAN WOMEN! :D

Edit: but then again, that's offset by the fact that women have better fashion sense than most men.

[Nyx]

Divers? as in like swimming divers? Wow, that's quite random.

[Rafael Domination]

Well, I've read over the statistics, and it's true. MEN ARE BETTER DRIVERS THAN WOMEN! :D

Edit: but then again, that's offset by the fact that women have better fashion sense than most men.


I'll quote myself. I said DRIVERS! :D :D :D

[dj4ever]

hahha. Way to go Nyx.

[appleofmyeye]

Er, I'll have to disagree on that. My mom can drive better than my dad when she's DRUNK. (I'm not advocating drunk driving, just proving a point).

[Nyx]

OH! Sorry raff, read it wrong.
But yea I'd agree, once you sit in a car with my mom driving...you think it's your last ride.

[dj4ever]

All I know is if my brothers ever drive me somewhere. I wouldn't be here tomorrow

[Nyx]

Haha.
Well Raff, could you show us some stats on that?

[Rafael Domination]

I saw it on Spike TV (Channel 32 for you Nyx, if you have cable.) It was compiled by these researchers who asked several dozen insurance companies who got into the most accidents and who kept their cars in better shape. Men beat women by a close 5-10% I think.

Still, I think men are the more AGGRESSIVE drivers.

[dj4ever]

Someone told me once that 80% of statistics are made up on the spot.

hehe

[Nyx]

Psh, you haven't seen agressive till you see my sister drive. O.o
But you say you saw the stats and I believe you so

+1 point for men.

[Rafael Domination]

Still, I've been with men and women drivers before. Women are fine...it's just that men seem to like cars better. Men have to be careful, though. Road rage is a big problem for us.

[dj4ever]

I wonder who gets in fights more often.

Probably girls, even though if it's not a fist fight...usually